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An important part of the infrastructure needs to be supported, but there is some confusion regarding the proposals 419 and 420. They are asking for compensation for the same contributions, so you need to post a new proposal to clarify the spending and who will receive compensation.

Next time, please try to reduce these expenses if possible:

- Curator fee: 7.5% - $8,372.87
- Tooling: $5,581.91 
- Price Fluctuation Buffer: $12,559.31

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What I may add to the comments on budgets:

Allocations for tooling and price fluctuations are contingent allocations.  They are used as or if required, if they are not used then they'll carry over to the next spend request.  With bounties funds are always held by the treasury accounts until allocated.

The curator fee is split over three curators over the time period assigned.  It is based on percentage so with the scenario I mentioned above it can be less if allocations are not spent.

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[@RogerLe]

There seems to be some issue with accusations of double spends and funding without authorization.

This referendum seeks to fund collators on Encointer which is a system chain by vote.  Like with other chains, we don't allocate funding to the team's collators, rather, only to those who secured slots permissionlessly or those who were elected (by governance) as invulnerables.

To make that even more simple, we don't cover funding to Parity or Encointer for the operation of any collators they operate.  At the moment Parity runs two collators per chain and Encointer is operating four on its chain.   

Funding under our budget starts from July and extends for six months, where as I believe Encointer's is retro.

As it relates to unauthorized approach, I think Malik is not well informed, which is usually the case.  Brenzi approached the IBP and later system collators with news of Encointer's permissionless collation.  He found that funding for same under the model of System collation to be a suitable match and adjusted their collator documents to make direct reference to this.  

https://book.encointer.org/infrastructure-collator-setup.html#incentives

Knocking the referendum out of confirmation and so close to the end of the decision period was in poor taste.  It is extremely disappointing to see the W3F's delegates (Decentralized Voices) participate in such an action against a programme that's well established and has benefited the chain directly.  More-so I expected better understanding from Superdupont and Alex who operate nodes themselves.   

Was there an attempt to raise the concern with the proposer or in the direction channel? 



@HqRcfhH8VXMhuCk5JXe28WMgDDuW9MVDVNofe1nnTcefVZn 
Thank you very much for the clarification, it is clear now, we would vote AYE for sure if they resubmit, the comment and concern we have left under the proposal is not answered for more than a week, and we didn't know that we should raise the concern in the direction channel, since normally we just communicate under the proposal here. 

This is a proposal for a bounty top-up of the System Parachain Collators funding on Kusama. This funding will cover AssetHub, BridgeHub, Coretime, People and Encointer System Parachains on Kusama.

This proposal supplements the original System Parachain Collator [Proposal](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H2T1Nx90HkSAYF_CaOPLG-o3LS7h_QAa2WLDdcSJMs0), and continues the proposal for [System Parachain funding](https://docs.google.com/document/d/14pRUj8WZPO75DuwDl4HoZU97v_Rmfx0bZ2KFqFW-qkE), aiming to incentivize the best performance, minimise censorship, and maintain liveliness by securing treasury funding for the operational costs of Kusama System Parachain Collators.  
Furthermore it expands its scope to three new System Parachains — Coretime, People and Encointer)  
Additionaly — it introduces newly established methodology of selection criteria for invulnerable collator spots, as well as newly established bidding procedure for securing permissionless spots.  
All of this is detailed out in the [**Proposal document**](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V3Q9jaYRGqssWHMowOab10bbR0CYDI456kLJWDqRkMI).

**Funding Reques**t**:** Infrastructure Costs and Staking Rewards

**Coverage:** Five Kusama System Parachains (AssetHub, BridgeHub, Coretime, People and Encointer)

**Duration:** 6-month runway

**Start Date:** July 1, 2024

**Funding Amount:** 6,024.02 KSM for Kusama System Parachains

- A proposal to add more funding for Kusama System Parachain Collators  
- Covers five parachains: AssetHub, BridgeHub, Coretime, People, and Encointer  
- Aims to improve performance and security  
- Includes new rules for selecting collators  
- Funding will last for 6 months  
- Starts on July 1, 2024  
- Requests 6,024.02 KSM for support

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WHO: Kusama System Parachain Collators
WHAT: Requesting funding of 6,024.02 KSM for infrastructure costs and staking rewards for 5 Kusama System Parachains (AssetHub, BridgeHub, Coretime, People and Encointer) for a 6-month runway starting on July 1, 2024.
PRICE/TIMEFRAME/RESOURCES: 6,024.02 KSM for 6 months.

Proposal for Top-Up for Funding of Kusama System Parachain Collators